In our latest conversation, Andrew and I explore the current collective transition in consciousness, purification, and healing.
Prior conversations with Andrew
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Last Updated on October 6, 2023 by Davidya
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Brilliance. Thank you for this. A lot is difficult to understand but I have a strong sense that I need to learn and know more.
Yes, Jaimie. As the path unfolds, other layers of experience unfold that need their own understanding to support.
Davidya my husband suggested that you call a collective shift to higher states of consciousness “ herd Divinity”. Why not!
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We seem to be a ways from “herd Divinity” yet. We have to move the herd into consciousness first. And maybe then “heard Divinity”, and then we can reach “herd Divinity”. The world will be a very different place then…
Hi David,
Thank you for this. In the conversation it was mentioned that there are experiences that are unfolding at the moment that are hard to find, or hardly mentioned in the scriptures.
“there’s definitely things that are unfolding that are hard to find in scriptures”
“these just beautiful depths of recognitions and refined experiences that are taking place right now that really there isn’t a lot of context for even scripturally”
Given that in the past there were golden ages and that we are currently still in the process of rising from a darker age it seems strange that there would be experiences happening now that weren’t contained in the ancient scriptures which were passed down (orally) during higher ages and then eventually written down for people to access during the darker ages.
How could there be experiences happening now that aren’t contained in the scriptures given that historically there have been much higher ages? Is it simply a case that some scriptures have been lost and we no longer have access to them?
Thank you.
Hi Greg
Yes, this is mainly a reference to pure Divinity. It’s not no references, just fewer. This is partly because pure Divinity is self-knowing so doesn’t need the same support. And partly because the understanding of it has been lost so existing translations miss the boat. For example, the sage Vasishtha described the 7 stages of enlightenment. But in translations I’ve seen, that wasn’t even recognized as the topic. The descriptions of collective practice are similarly obscured.
On the first point, for example, the Brahma Sutra is about Unity into Brahman. The Upanishads are mainly Self Realization through Unity. These are the “end of the Veda”, Vedanta. Divinity is beyond Veda.
Also, a lot of texts were written down but many were lost. There are references in other texts to them. For example, a few years ago they found an unlabeled core text on Sanskrit that defined letter gender and other features.
But gradually, as this unfolds for more and more, it will enliven in the collective (and massively accelerate the collective unfolding), leading to a much richer experience of the world.
In his later years, Maharishi migrated from speaking of Brahman to Brahm, which may be a different phrasing for this. Not sure.
Thank you for the clarification, makes sense 🙂
Yes I always wondered about Maharishi’s use of the word Brahm rather than Brahman
How is millions of people dying from COVID beneficial to purifying our collective consciousness?
I see anger, sadness and pain increasing in the world today. It’s real. Families are devastated.
How is the death of a mother beneficial to this transition process.
Hi John
Our conversation and my related writing are not a denial of the worlds pain and suffering. What we suggest is a reframing of life that will lead us out of suffering. The common perspective will just perpetuate it. As we mention, these trends have been going on for decades.
Anger, sadness, and pain are increasing because of the common perspective. And as we discussed, far more of this is due to old, unresolved issues rising to the surface to be healed. When we resist that healing, we perpetuate the issues.
Much of our unresolved baggage is stored in our environment. This is the energetic version of how we’re polluting our environment. That builds up until it become saturated. If we do nothing to help heal this, it will burst out in natural disasters, riots, disease and so forth, depending on the current cycles of time. In other words, this is our own doing.
If instead we engage in healing and opening, as more and more have been, we help process this backlog and reduce the consequences. In other words, rising consciousness isn’t creating the pandemic, it’s reducing it’s impact. But it’s also bringing many things to the surface to heal, like racism, inequity, abuse of power, and so forth.
All of this is a healing process. If we engage it that way, it will be smoother. If we amplify the drama, it will be rougher. If we can help people go through whatever is asked of them, we contribute to healing. If we focus on what is wrong and the suffering rather than the solutions, we amplify those.
The principles of karma are simple but very complex in practice. Who can say why a mother may die now rather than later. But I have found that when I have perspective, it becomes apparent how profound the intelligence is behind life’s events. Life is working to help us learn, heal, and grow. If we can learn to cooperate with that, as described, our quality of life is much improved.
The suffering is real but we have solutions to end it. What are we contributing to?
I very much enjoyed the talk. I feel these old very personal issues squirming and demanding attention on a daily basis. A very positive explanation of how our own “stuff” surfaces and is ours but is also the collective consciousness as if evolving. Little by little collective matters flow through this apparent mind and seem to heal or at least relax a little. Thank you both!
Well put, Jim. Not always comfortable when the squirming is prominent but if we can work through what is arising, the result is a quality of life upgrade.
Very interesting look at the collective consciousness from a wholistic view. I wonder what you both would say if looking more specifically at the small group, larger national groups, and the world wide group, in social and political forces, using the three gunas as distinguishing features. I feel like the daily local, national, and world news are such blatant and clear expressions of these gunas.
Hi Jessie
Oh yes very much. If you search Guna here, you’ll find articles on gunas and awakening, emotions, karma, different styles, their origin and more.
The principles we describe are happening on the level of the individual, the family, the community, the nation, and so forth. And the dominant quality or guna is the lens this is happening through.
Say for example, you have a friend who is dominantly sattva. She’ll be more likely to see what we talked about, noticing the collective purifying. Another friend is mostly rajas. If they’re moving towards sattva, they may feel restless or angry, wanting to do something about it. If they’re moving towards tamas, that same energy will be more destructive. The third friend is more tamas. They’ll feel depressed and unmotivated, like the world is coming to an end.
Of course, this isn’t about judging people. Just getting a sense of their trends and influence. Some days we all feel more tamasic, like after a heavy meal or not enough sleep.
The collective is simply that gathering of it all together. If the rajasic friend dominates the group, the group will be drawn there. But when they’re away, the sattvic friend may be most influential. Again, it shifts around. 🙂
They say the government illustrates the quality of the population. Raise the consciousness of the country and you raise its deserving power (with cycles of time and karma in play too).
Transcript added:
https://davidya.ca/media/transcript-a-conversation-with-andrew-hewson-and-davidya-buckland-on-the-collective-transition/