In a recent video, Kristin Kirk responds to a question about subtle guides. Are my guides Me?
We have to be careful not to get caught up in concepts of what we’re supposed to experience and instead, look to the reality of what is here now for us. Kristin makes the key point that the experience depends on where you are looking from, then uses good examples. From the trunk of the tree (closer to source), we are one with all beings. From further up into the branches, we are distinct with our own vibration and a specific sequence of unfolding lives, unique to this soul. In diversity, we differ from any other being. Both perspectives are valid simultaneously.
There are several ways we might relate to the soul sequence. People have often asked how I know these were “my” past lives and not just random group memories. Kristin spoke of recognition through vibration or feel. Here, the sequence of unfolding was recognized more through memory and visuals, then the threads of connection between the lives. The lives could be experienced as concurrent and whole and also as a sequence of unfolding.
I would also add that if this arena is new for you, you need to discriminate kinds of subtle beings. Beings made of light or energy have some or a lot of control over their appearance. We should not assume subtle means pure. Looking important or offering a fancy name means little. Follow the same rules for meeting any stranger. Notice how they feel. This will help discriminate the troublemakers from the wanna-bes and the true helpers. Once you’re familiar with both divine and astral beings, you’ll have a much better sense of this.
Davidya
Another clue is that alliances with astral beings don’t “work”. They are inherently dysfunctional. This is in contrast with Divine presence. It is always there for practical work, actual help within real events, here on earth. Very, very different purpose and experience. As to where such presence lives, externally or internally, that depends on our relationship with ourselves and the state of consciousness. Brahman means nothing hidden, so inside and outside basically go away, or more precisely lose their meaning.
Great post! Thank you.
Right, Jim.
As with humans there’s a kind of whats in it for them motivation that gets in the way. The divine on the other hand, is all about the whole rather than the me.
And yes, it depends on our stage of development as to how we experience and relate to this stuff.
I am trying to put something together here. Not sure if it’s relevant to the conversation but: Sometimes I hear people saying that their devotion to/experience of communication with an external figure/s collapses when they realise that all is One, there is no other (David Newman describes this in his Batgap interview). So I am curious about whether they are just reporting from different ‘levels’ of consciousness, or…?
Not sure if this question is clear…
Hi Amaryllis
The changes in stage of our relationship with consciousness and refined perception are somewhat distinct but intertwined processes.
When a stage change takes place, it’s not uncommon for the refined perception to fall away for a time while the new shift is integrated.
The change in perspective may also lead to us losing interest in some things. Without attention, they come up much less.
This can happen at any shift point but seems slightly more common with men.
Oneness doesn’t mean we stop seeing differences. Only that we recognize all beings are of the same stuff and in the same wholeness. Like all the blossoms on a tree are of the same tree.
Of course, sometimes such personal experiences lead to ideas that they’re universal.
Thank you for taking the time to clarify. I am feeling waves appreciation for the whole set-up here: You on one side of the world, me on another, appreciating the generosity of all who share from the universal principle…
You’re welcome. Thanks for expressing it.