Transcript: The Stages of Awakening, Malika and Davidya Buckland

Malika: Welcome to Jump into Source Bliss. My name is Malika. I’m a Direct Source Connection teacher and an intuitive healer. Before I invite my guest on today, I always set an intention for the episode.

So I invite everybody to close their eyes and invite my divine team, spirit guides, angels, archangels, higher self and source to come in this present moment. I invite you, divine team, spirit guides, angels, archangels, higher self and source to come in this present moment. I set the intention of us truly being able to feel into that source within ourselves today. Thank you, thank you.

So my guest today, David Buckland, or Davidya, is somebody really close to me. He’s my extended soul family, and he has a beautiful blog that I love, with so many articles and resources. He’s been meditating for more than 50 years. He also does the Direct Source Connection technique that I teach, and he has a high level of consciousness. So, David, to come on my series, welcome.

David: Thank you, Malika.

M: So David, let me start by asking, what is Source to you?

D: Well, I guess I’d give a bit of context first, so what I say makes a bit of sense. For me, when I first began to meditate many years ago, an effortless meditation, very much like you teach. It really shifted my sense of self and the nature of reality for me, just touching into source. And it did stir up a lot of dust at first, the first little while getting started, but it clearly was a change within, just being able to touch into that pure consciousness, that sense of inner being, that universality that was inside, was then just inside.

And it shifted my priorities in life. At the time I wanted to be a documentary filmmaker and was working for a local television station and trying to make little films and things and I shifted to wanting to become a meditation teacher and go deeper into the knowledge and I ended up spending six months in northeast France learning to teach meditation but also go much deeper into the practice and did a lot of purification for the first three months or so and then there was a shift and the observer, the witness or observer, came online full-time. So, along with waking, dreaming, and sleeping, there was this observing consciousness, kind of back and above, watching the life, and watching the mind, and the emotions, and so on like that.

Now, this is a characteristic of initial Self-Realization or Cosmic Consciousness, but in my case, I was one of the ones who had shifted into witnessing but didn’t quite wake up, so there was still identified ego in play. And so, then again, Source was still within, and it was kind of had this observing quality, but then really deep in there, I also experienced a more universal, because the observer was kind of like from a point, whereas there was still that universal consciousness that I was experiencing within.

And then life happened and went along and continued to meditate and got married and had a family and careers and so on like that. And then there was kind of a more inward shift happened again and I reconnected with some friends from the early times when I was meditating and found out that a few of them had actually woken up and spent some time with an awake teacher and friend, and then the Self recognized itself here as well.

So there’s that shift from being an observer to being everything. But again, it was still a within thing. There was still a separate world out here. And then over time there was a series of steps, I guess you could say, or there was a process that unfolded where there was a refinement and awakening of the, what I refer to as the high heart chakra, that was kind of like the heart chakra has layers and the higher value, universal love and compassion and so on, woke up and the refined perception and experiencing the nature of the world around me in terms of the way it was, you know, how the world was arising from within.

And then there was a shift where it’s kind of like the world around me was experienced as like it was playing out on a movie screen, that was consciousness also. And so the appearance of the world, the stage play of life, was playing out on the screen of consciousness. And then there was this recognition that that screen of consciousness was the same Self as within. And so the subject and object collapsed into one wholeness.

And then there was kind of progressive deepening where the world around me, like as I experienced things, I recognized I was them. They were arising from and in consciousness, and that was the Self. So it was myself. And so there was this progressive unification of all the layers of experience and memory and, you know, everything you can think of, progressive unification. And then, and so from the source, from that perspective, was something that I was immersed in, and everything was immersed in. And it was just, it was everything around me was arising from source and in source.

And then at a certain point, consciousness was recognized to be knowing itself universally and at every point within itself. The experiencer here was one of those points, but there were as many other points, and because they were all the Self, one could shift into any point of perspective and experience what it was to be a tree or a cat or a Chinese man that lived 5,000 years ago, or whatever. And it was all just permutations of the Self, of that source within. And so you develop that kind of infinite—not infinite, intimate understanding of those qualities of the source and how they express, particularly the ones that we relate to, we resonate with, ones that are more alive here.

And then it reached a point where consciousness knew itself fully, and it kind of turned and looked beyond itself. Now this is kind of a weird thing. Someone who’s Self-Realized or in Unity experiences Source as infinite and eternal, and the idea there’s something beyond it is kind of like, it sounds like a silly idea, a delusion even. However, there’s that shift from being everything everywhere to being nothing. Beyond time and space, beyond creation, beyond any intention to become. In the Vedic tradition, they refer to that as Brahman. Nirguna Brahman, in particular. Brahman without qualities.

And so it was kind of going beyond source. At the time, I happened to be in grad school and was very focused on studies. It was a compressed program. So there was classes six days a week and you know homework every day and all this stuff so there wasn’t a lot of time to sit with it and and digest what was going on but what was noticed mostly was what was no longer there, the fullness of and the intimacy of being everything everywhere was now nothing being nothing nowhere.

But as, you know, in time I was able to sit with it a bit more and there was some more refinement, much more subtle refinement taking place, then these qualities started to become obvious. And within Brahman, not manifest qualities, but like pre-manifest qualities, sort of, and there was like a quality of alertness. It’s kind of the Shiva quality of the pure observer without content, observing nothing, just being alert. And then there was a quality of liveliness, the Shakti aspect, that stirred. And then that liveliness would stir the alertness, and it would begin to flow, the attention would flow, and it became consciousness. So, recognizing those beginnings of Source, where source comes from.

And then more subtly, there was this quality of intelligence that was just embedded in that, because the alertness didn’t…or the liveliness didn’t just agitate alertness. It gave it a direction, and it curved back on itself and became self-aware, and it interacted with itself. And so the world arose from that. And then, with a little more time still, it became apparent those qualities were actually qualities of Divinity. And there was a value of Divinity that was greater than what had been experienced prior.

Within consciousness, within the field of source, the Divine is expressed. It’s in form or even formless, but it has qualities. But just like in the very beginning of learning to meditate, we experience some tastes of pure consciousness, and then we come to know the whole world as being consciousness. So too here, we’re coming into pure Divinity, Divinity without expression, and so it turns out to be the source of the source.

Because those qualities of Divinity combine together to create consciousness from which everything arises. So the perspective these days is that pure consciousness, that field of lively inner awareness, is the source of all experience, the world around us, and that has a source in pure Divinity. And there’s some other qualities of Divinity that show up in different ways in the world. Like that liveliness has a quality of power within it. The Shakti has a great power and this quality of love, which is what drives the bus, so to speak.

M: Now you started with the TM mantra, so I want to know, or I mean you’re still doing it with the frequency, so I want to know the power of mantra in invoking that source consciousness.

D: Well, for me, when I was on, learning to teach meditation, I began to have a subtle perception, and what I recognized then was that the mantra was actually reverberating away all the time at a subtle level, basically what I would call the causal or the celestial level, and that it had a geometric form. And I experienced it rising out of this kind of like when the world first starts to manifest on the causal level, there’s a subtle geometry that goes on there and forms first as a geometry. And so I experienced the geometry of the mantra rising out of this kind of ocean of…well, I called it an ocean of existence at the time, but it’s actually more gross than pure existence itself, because it’s in a manifest space as opposed to a…like when consciousness first curves back on itself and becomes self-aware, it creates a subtle space, it’s not really a manifest space. It’s kind of like a pre-manifest space, and a lot of powerful intentions, attentions, whatever—I’m not sure how to describe it exactly— can arise in that field, and then they first begin to manifest on the causal level.

And so you can also work on the causal level. Like, for example, we’ve talked about… there’s kind of archetypal structures, and there’s kind of patterns for what a human form looks like, and what the – not memes, that’s not quite the right word – but what the subtle structures are that underlie the world. And so, for example, you can refer back to those templates to correct errors in the physiology that develop over time with age and abuse.

Although you have a lot more expertise at that than I do.

M: No, but I still want to hear your perspective. And you also sent me an article about, you know, the soul song and how everything has a ripple vibration or sound. And that’s how you’re kind of known in that spirit realm, when you’re not embodied or when you’re not in a body. So, well, first, yeah, explain about that. And how?

D: Okay, yeah, so I just talked about the geometry. So basically, the mechanics of it, in consciousness, there’s that observer and observed quality, but then the more important part is the interaction between them, and that’s where the devata value begins, and that’s the devata, it’s kind of like the laws of nature, we might say in English.

They’re kind of points of intelligence, kind of like, almost like beings that are pure jiva, but they work together in teams, and they kind of, they organize themselves in spherical structures of different numbers, but depending on the type of thing that they’re doing. And then they use Sanskrit-like sounds in harmonies and sequence to create the subtle geometry, which is then overlaid with fields and becomes forms.

But all of this happens in a way quite differently than we would experience, you know, time and space and so on, because they’re kind of structuring these things in a way that are it’s like all the past, present, and future are all simultaneous, you know, and on, well, it depends on what level they’re functioning on, but on, because there’s kind of like, there’s a cosmic level of form on the level of creation within consciousness itself, and then there’s the devata, body of the devata, and then there’s the stages of manifestation, where you have vibration or sound structured into subtle geometry, then fields, and then form, kind of like that. And so that dynamic of the devata in the spheres, creating geometries, is kind of like the song of the form.

And there’s a relationship, the Vedas talk about called “name and form,” where the name or sound of an object and its form are synchronized on that level. Like when I say “pigeon,” for example, you can sort of think of what a bird looks like, but if I use the English word “pigeon” to try and create a bird pigeon, on a subtle level, it’s not going to work properly because the actual sounds that create the form of a pigeon are not the word pigeon. They’re not, the name and form are not in sync.

Whereas on that level, it’s known in yoga as ritambhara prajna, that consciousness which accepts only truth. It’s the level with the subtle intellect prior to all the minds noise, emotional baggage, and all that stuff that we have, where it’s able to simply experience the nature of form and its causal influence and sound and so on, in a way that is prior to all the interpretation and all that kind of thing.

M: And you felt that when you got the frequency activation, you talked about feeling into that energy that shook the abdomen.

D: Yeah, when I first got it, like in my case, you didn’t change my mantra, but rather added the enhancement. And it’s like it turned on the light and the monitor kind of thing and it had a colour and then you added an enhancement to it which changed the color again and it was quite interesting to experience because it was a whole different level of the mantra that hadn’t been there in all those decades.

M: So when you got the frequency, was it kind of similar to that original vibration or that soul song that you would describe?

D: Well in my case, because the mantra itself didn’t change, it didn’t change in that way, but it’s like it turned on qualities. You know, like suddenly discovering you have a skill on a piano. You know, there’s things that weren’t lively before that became lively, and I’ve noticed those having effects on all kinds of different ways in my life. Like I’m recovering from a major medical treatment, which is one of the reasons I started getting healing treatments from you after the main treatment was finished, just to help accelerate the recovery. And it’s been really interesting to watch how it’s changing things, kind of on the mundane, you know, side-effect kind of things, but also in a whole other level of things that are happening, where it’s like it’s kind of changing some of the foundational stuff with influences that have been there for a very long time, many lifetimes.

You know, we dealt with one recently where, in the collective, where it was from a prior life, and it hadn’t been clear to me how the events of that life, one of the people in that life, was able to do what they did, because they had an unreasonable level of influence. And the structure that enabled that became clear, and we dismantled that.

M: Yeah, actually I didn’t see the details. I just cleared it. I just saw it.

D: I’m kind of visual so I kind of see stuff a bit too. But I yeah. Yeah, but it depends. So it depends on how clear it is because sometimes it’s not clear enough to actually see much, just to get a feel or impression of it.

M: But we learned something on this healing journey for you. It was about the role of cancer in your spiritual awakening process and why your soul chose that. So I think that was one of the deepest things I think that came through.

D: Yeah, and it was apparent to me right off the top, after I got diagnosed that it was a necessary experience for the process here, for the karma and for what needed to be experienced to grow. And so understanding that made the whole process much simpler.

M: How do you implement Source Bliss in your daily life?

D: I don’t know. I mean, for me, it’s not a… Like when I’m asked to – I wrote an article a little bit ago about energy healing and prior to our meeting, and it was interesting to consider because, you know, energy healers have this formal process that they use for the most part, or at least as a foundation, and, whereas I was – for me it was just informal and something I kind of picked up over time just from experience and learning things and noticing what didn’t work and what did work. But I hadn’t formalized it in any way that I could tell someone else about it. So I thought about it a little bit more and sort of realized it’s like the important part is feeling into it and becoming aware of the charge that’s there and in many cases it’s simply an unresolved experience and it just has to be experienced for it to resolve, without attachment and or going into it or just to allow it.

So for me there is not a formal process that I do, it’s simply that I live my life and what comes up…

M: the [unclear] help

D: I give it attention and yeah and see what it needs. yeah To be clear, my approach is primarily as a writer and I

M: your bliss that comes through, that’s the source

D: yeah and there’s a, but basically my dharma is to be shown things and then to share that, share what I learned from that. And so I write about that, and so that shows up in a somewhat different way than what you’re doing, for example. And so, like I mentioned, I haven’t formalized a healing technique or a certain approach.

It’s more, like my first book is written on the stages of enlightenment, and what I’ve done is documented what the underlying process is, and the primary variations and how people subjectively experience that process, because there’s some variation. And so, you know, some things that sound the same are actually different and some things that seem different are actually the same, just different subjectively.

M: Give us an overview of that.

D: Okay, well, basically there’s seven stages of enlightenment and they build on top of, you know, like we can study in psychology, we can study the usual stages of human development, like ego development, or there’s several models that are used in psychology.

But then there’s the stages of enlightenment, or what we might call post-personal stages, where we step out of the personal self and into a more universal or cosmic Self.

And so that first stage is known as Self-Realization or Cosmic Consciousness, where we shift from being a “me” to being the cosmic Self, or “atman,” observing the “me.” So we kind of switch sides of the dynamic, so to speak. We switch from experiencing source to being source, experiencing the effects of source, or the expressions of source.

But that’s just the observer side of consciousness, that three-way dynamic. And then there’s a parallel. It’s kind of like a masculine and feminine processes. The masculine is in the process, stages in consciousness and the feminine in the stages of refinement. The way the Shakti is being experienced. And so if there’s refinement being developed, then there’s the awakening of the high heart I mentioned and refinement of perception. And so we what’s known as God consciousness or Refined Consciousness where we become, begin to become aware of the dynamics of consciousness and how it works in the world and you know the way the world works, and that kind of thing and to various degrees.

It really varies widely. Like someone like yourself has a lot of refined perception whereas other people have very little and if there’s very little then the process tends to be drier. People tend to talk more in terms of the world being illusory and maya, you know, that kind of framing. And there’s a low emphasis on the heart and healing actually in many cases because, you know, people become aware of what they’re resisting and what needs to be healed from their emotional stuff quite often. Sometimes it’s the the babbling mind too, but the charge aspect is through the feelings.

And so there’s that awakening God consciousness stage, and then, that’s kind of the layer, there’s that inner consciousness, and then the surface experience. And so it’s kind of getting to know all the layers in between those two, and that can take time. And the distinction there too, is that with the masculine process in consciousness, there’s an initial shift, and then a growing integration and embodiment. Whereas with the feminine side of the equation, there is a progressive refinement and climactic transitions that come towards the end.

And so the next stage, of course, is where the, Unity where the subject and object are recognized to be one and the same, and they collapse together into one wholeness. And that tends to be structured in several stages as we integrate that Unity into all the layers of our experience, as I touched on earlier.

And then that refinement process, if it was going on earlier, it continues, but now in the context of Unity, in that different context. And that’s when that process has the potential to climax with what’s commonly known as God Realization, where the unification reaches a climax in unifying with the expressed form of God.

There is a value that can develop in God-Consciousness where the Ishta Devata, or the chosen form of God, that form of God we most resonate with, where there can be a devotional flow, then that kind of climaxes in God-Realization as the unification process, including the expressed form of God. And in some cases that kind of completes the unification process, which sets the stage for that Brahman shift.

And that Brahman shift, as I touched on earlier, is when we step out of the dynamics of consciousness into that quality-less field. And it’s interesting, people talk about Brahman in different ways, but from the perspective of pure Divinity, Brahman is like an afterglow of Divinity. It’s like a step outside of Divinity in a broad kind of way. It’s not really outside Divinity, because Divinity, nothing is not Divinity, but it’s not the pure Divinity. It’s kind of like the afterglow, and then consciousness arises beyond that too. And again, consciousness isn’t separate from Brahman either. It’s in Brahman, sometimes called saguna, or Brahman with qualities.

And then again, the refinement process can show up in the Brahman context, but now it’s much more subtle than the qualities that we were experiencing in consciousness. Now it’s what turns out to be those qualities, those unexpressed qualities of Divinity. And then if there is a refinement process going on, then it has that potential to go further and to reach what’s known as Parabrahman, beyond Brahman or pure Divinity, where it’s, there’s only Divinity.

M: So, Urs is asking us to give an experience. So, we’re going to do, we’re just going to, let’s experience that for a second. Are you ready?

D: Okay. So, expand on Divinity?

M: Yes, we’re going to do it together.

D: Okay. Yeah, it’s interesting. To describe pure Divinity, it’s like describing pure consciousness. It’s like, it’s just consciousness without content. And so it just has these qualities of being and infinite and boundless. And Divinity is like, it’s just so, power is one word, just incredible power beyond.

Well, I can give you a little bit of perspective here. On the causal level is where our universe first begins. Sometimes people talk about Hiranya Garbha, the golden egg, that’s essentially experiencing our universe from the outside. But if you step back into this, the unmanifest space prior to the causal, in that space of what I call creation, where this expression, or this place where consciousness became self-aware, there’s kind of a large unmanifest space, and within that are many universes. Not multiverses, but separate universes with their own distinct laws of Nature. Just all basically this play of consciousness to have a whole bunch of distinct experiences. So all different, all these different life forms, and all these different laws of nature kind of creating these specific experiential frameworks or you know, different stages in a giant auditorium. But that’s only one of the creations.

The other creations in the mind of God, you could say, are completely different, and there’s not really any way to describe them because they’re nothing like ours. One of them that I’ve looked at, it really helped me understand time because space is a function of consciousness becoming aware of itself, whereas time is a function of that process of experience that takes place between subject and object. The process of experience gives rise to our experience of time, and our relationship with that determines whether we’re experiencing time as a progressive thing, or as an eternal now, or as all time in the present, or as timeless. You know, I can’t remember now, but there’s like eight different ways you can experience time based on your relationship with that process of experience. And where was I going with that?

M: So I just wanted an experience like we come together and give them experience.

D: Right. And so…

M: Thank you for explaining that.

D: Yeah so Divinity is.

M: No we’re going to actually do the experience right now.

D: Okay, okay great.

M: Because that’s, they’re really really asking for that I think us coming together for the people that are going to listen in this so that they can experience it.

D: Oh that’ll be a stretch.

M: Are you ready? You don’t have to, we’re just going to come in the field together, that’s all. You don’t have to do anything. It’ll just be the experience of Source to us. Okay so, hold on.


M: Thank you. That was amazing. Wow.

D: One of the things that came to say was, that pure Divinity has this quality of as the source of the source, which is this quality of being the Divine Mother.

M: I’m still emotional from my experience. I’ve felt a lot there. Yeah, anything else you want to share on source?

D: I just get silence.

M: So David has a blog of over 2000 articles, so we’re going to link that right below. That’s his free gift. Please check that out. He is an amazing writer and you can feel his essence in every article. So, you want to talk about the blog a little?

D: I’m at a place where I… speak from.

One thing to mention, too, I did talk about the stages earlier, but the key part there too, there’s this process of embodiment. It’s not about accomplishing something for a person, but rather an unfolding, and the more we can bring those inner shifts forward into the life, the more embodied it is, the more…

Because as you’re moving through that process, you’re becoming more and more universal. And so those shifts are shifts in universal consciousness. It’s universal Self waking up to itself through this body-mind. And so that’s a shift for the whole. And that process becomes more and more universal. And it’s kind of like they talk about, you know, rising water lifts all boats. And that’s a lot about what’s going on in the world these days.

Is there’s a lot of people waking up, a lot of people moving into progressively higher stages, and a progressive deepening of embodiment. And so it’s creating a lot of purification in the collective. And so we’re seeing that as kind of an irrationality in the playing out on the stage of the world. A bit of craziness. But the key to understand about that is it’s not that the world is falling apart, it’s that the world is waking up and shedding its delusions.

And if you understand that process and cooperate with it, it can be a hugely evolutionary, growing experience. But if you buy into the fear and the drama, then it just creates more struggle. There’s this opportunity to do massive healing, but if we resist that and make a fuss about everything, then we just have more drama. We don’t really engage the opportunity to heal.

So it’s a beautiful, it’s actually a very beautiful time in the world, but we’re going to see more of it on the surface in time as more and more of that embodiment takes place. Then it’s going to be able to be experienced. And it’s interesting to watch the inner values also growing in ways.

For example, there’s been some laws of nature that have been dormant for a long time, and with rising consciousness, they’re waking up and new functions come online, and those then integrate with existing laws of nature to create new syntheses.

And then more recently, one of the things that takes place is when more and more people are embodying pure Divinity, they’re immersing the devata of their physiology in Divinity, which is causing the devas to awaken spiritually. So what happens there is that they shift locally, and then that gradually falls back into the collective. And so, essentially, it creates a wave through the collective of that function in nature coming in complete tune with Divinity and those qualities of enlightenment on the level of the laws of nature. And that’s having a profound effect on functions in the world.

It’s still in the falling back process for the most part, and it’s going to take time for that to express forward into world events and so on, but it’s a movement that’s started now, and so it’s just like a massive increase in the momentum of this transition.

M: Thank you for being with me and sharing all your wisdom.

D: You’re welcome. The blog has been, I started writing it in 2007, so it’s been around for a while and that’s why there’s so many articles. It’s a wide range of stuff on relationships, stuff from Vedic science, stages of enlightenment, healing, all kinds of topics related to this evolutionary process.

M: So we’re going to link it right below and they will have, they will be able to access it. Thank you. And thank you to everybody who took in this transmission and just held space for it.

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