This was an interesting take I’d not considered prior. I’ve talked about stages of witnessing and witnessing from mind, jiva, and atman (awakening). But these are from the observer or masculine side of consciousness, the Shiva aspect.
When in Unity (or having tastes of), you shift in consciousness into objects of experience, like a tree or cat. You can be witnessing as the observer or shifting into the observed or feminine side where the aliveness value of consciousness is most prominent.
Then you’re in a feminine form of witnessing. I would say this is a less neutral and more personal style of experience. Becoming the observed is what makes Unity a very intimate stage.
I have no idea how typical becoming the observed as a witness vs as an object is, but it is an option. It’s all consciousness.
The interview itself started a little stiffly, with Rick debating his initial impression of Andrew’s description, then mellowed well.